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China has never sought to expand outside the places it regards as historically Chinese.

The country's strength sucks for the people of Tibet and Taiwan. There's no reason, though, for the rest of us to get antsy...

John, just because something hasn't happened before doesn't mean that it won't.

The Arabs were a pastoral people, warring amongst themselves for thousands of years, then in the 7th century they broke out and conquered a huge empire.

In the 15th century, huge Chinese ships reached Africa with the intention of establishing a wider empire. OK, they never followed it up but it looks as if China's current rulers are reviving the project.

Mao sought world domination too. His successors are just sticking to the long-term plan.

I've posted here on this before, Steve. As you know, I agree with John. Economic power for me will be far likelier to revive the Greater China project that unheard of Chinese wider imperialism. If I was Taiwanese I'd be shitting it. Mongolia, maybe even Indochina, ditto in the longer term.

Jarndyce, I'm sort of with Steve on this. The risks are not just of rampant Chinese expansionism (which may not be entirely in their interests). Rather, wider-than-regional conflict could arise as a result of competition between the Chinese and the Americans over, most obviously, oil. Geographic empire need not be the driving force behind conflict.

They are also dangerously close to the Russian Far East and Siberia, with its vast mineral wealth. A new Russo-Chinese war would be no picnic.

It's fairly true that they'll start off being aggressive on their own doorstep rather than across the world - but so what? Either we make clear that expansion will be counted sooner or we deal with it later, when they've got a much stronger position. Given globalisation, etc, if they controlled all of central and south east Asia, we could hardly ignore them, could we?

China's had no global imperialist history simply because it hasn't been powerful before during the modern age, when transport and trade made world empires possible. It doesn't mean, as Steve says, that they won't be willing when they do get their power.

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