40% of British Muslims want sharia law in the UK

An ICM opinion poll reveals that forty percent of British Muslims want sharia law introduced into the areas of the country that are predominantly Muslim and that one fifth sympathised with the motives of the 7 July bombers.

Reactions to the poll's findings from politicians have been predictable - expressions of surprise and alarm.  Those of us who have been paying attention are not surprised though.  In 2001 a former Race Relations Officer from Bradford warned that Muslims in the city were behaving like colonists:

The Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities now expect to recreate the environment of their country of origin.

Not all Muslims in Bradford want Muslim only areas.  Traders, retailers, restaurant owners want and need a broad-based custom profile.  However, there is a drive amongst the mosque-attending older generation who would like sharia areas.  There is also the minority of highly disaffected young men who want to control their patches.  These two opposite ends of the spectrum desire the same thing albeit for different reasons and it is likely that they will support each other in order to attain their goals.

Those people who express surprise at the poll findings must have had their eyes and ears shut,  or else they have been deliberately looking the other way.

Update: Dr Patrick Sookhdeo,  writing in today's Telegraph, says:

In a decade, you will see parts of English cities which are controlled by Muslim clerics and which follow, not the common law, but aspects of Muslim sharia law. It is already starting to happen - and unless the Government changes the way it treats the so-called leaders of the Islamic community, it will continue.

He has spent the last two weeks interviewing Muslim clerics about the Cartoon War.  His conclusion:

They think they have won the debate.  They believe that the British Government has capitulated to them, because it feared the consequences if it did not.

The cartoons, you see, have not been published in this country, and the Government has been very critical of those countries in which they were published. To many of the Islamic clerics, that's a clear victory.

It's confirmation of what they believe to be a familiar pattern: if spokesmen for British Muslims threaten what they call 'adverse consequences' - violence to the rest of us - then the British Government will cave in. I think it is a very dangerous precedent.

Read the whole article.  It shows that those of us who have been banging on about this for years are not just paranoid Islamophobes.  There really is something going on in our country that should worry us all.

Hat Tip:  Laban

Comments

[laban]

Blogger is back, steve, so I'm OK now - thanks.

Did you see Patrick Sookhdeo interview, also in the 'Telegraph' ?

"They think they have won the debate," he says with a sigh. "They believe that the British Government has capitulated to them, because it feared the consequences if it did not"

also this is of note

http://www.turks.us/article.php?story=2006021221421729

[chris]

shows the solution. Cut back on state handouts to force more people to be traders, retailers, restaurant owners want and need a broad-based custom profile. Use economics to force a bit of mixing so they get to know people outside their colonies and soon enough you will get integration. It's a shame that New Labour seem unable to grasp this point that mixing leads to integration. They want to reduce the mixing still further by letting the muslim colonies segregate themselves educationally as well as economically.

[Dave]

I was supprised by the numbers Steve even though I have been concerned about this for a long time also.

Maybe if it had been 10% in favour that would have been what I expected.
But 40% in favour of sharia and 41% against, thats crazy.
This is an invasion, the fact that 'our' government is allowing it does not mitigate that fact.

I really can see a civil war in our future. As one group becomes more extreme the opposing group will respond in kind.
Our government will continue to pretend nothing is happening for as long as possible.

[Dave]

"They believe that the British Government has capitulated to them,"

It has! the British government is not so much afraid of the violence as it is afraid of the whole idea of multi-culturalism will be blown apart.
These leftists freaks have been pushing this ideology for most of their adult lives, they will cling to it as long as possible.

[G. Tingey]

The English ahve been here before ...
From 1583 (or 1585 - I forget which) when the then Pope declared it a duty of good catholics to overthrow the English state ....

Which is why the catholics were quite rightly, suspected, and (often not-so-rightly) persecuted....

Unless we are lucky, that's what we'll have to do again.....

Coupled with the declaration by the mad mullahs of Iran that Nukes are allowable against god's enemies, it isn't looking good.

[EU Serf]

What does 40% for Sharia really mean?

No woman would ever want it so:

80% of Muslim men in Britain want Sharia.

Far fetched? I'm not sure.

[Steve]

Serf, that's a big assumption.

Some women say they like fundamentalist Islam and apparently submit to it willingly. I suppose they know where they stand and there may be some comfort in such certainty.

Feminists might say it is 'false consciousness' or something but there are Muslim girls from liberal households who join hardline Islamic societies when they get to college. You even get the odd western woman joining in.

What's in it for them is beyond me. Someone will probably do a PHD on it before too long.

[Guessedworker]

Chris,

There is no gentle solution to a conflict of ethnic interests. We have become decadent and feminised, and allowed our political elites to offer our living space to all humanity. We are, essentially, dying. If we do not wish to die we must choose to live. The nature of that choice precludes comfortable compromises.

Rid your mind of the last sixty years of propaganda which has turned the normal, healthy pursuit of ethnic English interests into a thought-crime. Reflect on what we must do to secure our children's future in this, our homeland.

What has been done by a traitor class must be undone by faithful Englishmen, or we will lose everything.

[Dave]

well the poll would have been better if it had split up age groups sexes and perhaps previous nationality.
That would have given a much more interesting picture.
I'd like to know how many with extreme views are young or if most are the older generation.

[James G.]

"You even get the odd western woman joining in.

What's in it for them is beyond me. Someone will probably do a PHD on it before too long."

Or you could do what I did on a pissup in the East End one night and ask the girls why they go for the Muslim guys...

Because Muslim men are circumcised...I shit you not, that was the answer given to me...

[Alison]

Oh James, with us girls its all a phase :) And thats just one of many. I read about a western woman choosing to wear a burqa. She spoke openly about not needing to worry about what people thought. Feeling secure. Equal. Women are naturally competitive when it comes to men and they are their own worst enemies. If there is an opportunity to level the playing field and you happen to be weak minded then youll choose the easier option. I swear that for some women that perceived 'plus' is worth it. Its called opting out. I understand that no more than someone who is happy to live off benefits for the rest of their life. I agree with Ayaan Hirshis take on how to tackle the burqa.

[Dr Dan H.]

"Sharia Law in selected areas"? Are these muslims completely barking mad? Do they not remember what happened when a Government last granted the right to have religious-law governed enclaves in it's cities to a minority?

They were the Jewish Ghettos, and were arguably one of the reasons that the Jewish minority of 1930s Germany managed to get themselves to terribly hated; they permitted the bulk of the German people to think of "Them and Us" and to dehumanise the Jews.

That allowed the holocaust, which might never have happened had there been more integration and less isolationism in the two populations.

We cannot let that happen again. We cannot permit one group to isolate its self from the bulk population, since all it then takes is an economic crisis and racist politicians to kick off another round of "Let's all blame $minority for all our woes".

[user1951]

I am an atheist but a mathematician. So a headline which raises the alarm that 40 percent of muslims want sharia law reads "60 percent don't" to me.

"I am an atheist but a mathematician. So a headline which raises the alarm that 40 percent of muslims want sharia law reads "60 percent don't" to me."

Yeah, well its 40% for and 41% against according to the poll ;)

[Rastaman]

This old blog has raised its snarling head again? Just shows that you take it seriously. But hey, don't worry. It will all be solved in the near future (within a few years at most) by the judicious application of nuclear weaponry. Peace, bro.