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Hang every priest you can find .....

THEN you might stand a chance?

It's a very interesting and plausible argument. Let me extend it a bit further. The template worked under the Empire for, at least, one other reason: that if the local rulers didn't play ball, not only were they replaced but they and the people they ruled knew that sufficient force could (and would) be brought to bear to enforce the will of the British. Certainly, domestically, that will has now disappeared. Our rulers may be interested in dealing with the disparate "communities" of the UK but, unless the "community" is indigenous, white, English and nominally Christian, there is absolutely no stomach for conflict of any sort.

If these opinion polls reflect anything like reality, then a colonial-type adminstration would have done something: the desirability of the continuation on imperial territory of such a potentially disruptive minority would have been the subject of a serious review. Forget about imperial politics, giving local "community leaders" (or anybody else) forewarning of police action to enforce the ordinary criminal law would not be on the agenda. On the contrary, a show of force in pursuit of preventing serious crime would be part of the process of ruling: it would show those considering opposition that the rulers meant business: it would show the law-abiding that the rulers were willing to uphold the law without fear or favour.

Unfortunately, the domestic lesson learned from the law enforcement and communitarian policies of the last 40 years (at least here in the imperial territory of London) is that sensible citizens should look to the mafia of community "leadership" for a semblance of protection rather than directly to the "service" led by the bien pensant and complaisant members of ACPO.

You couldn't have hit that nail on the head any better I have to say. A stellar piece of writing that pretty much sums up all I wanted to say on the issue.
Will be linking this.

Hi Steve - off topic but the link fell off when I moved to shiny new Blogger templates. God knows what else has gone missing.

It'll return - honest.

Not sure I agree with all but the last paragraph. Heres why:

How does this stack up against identity politics? CAIR has as much power as the MCB in being the voice of a 'community' - the latter evolved from american civil rights movements not Empire templates. If the success of the likes of the MCB is down to a British Empire template then how does that extend to our american cousins who have the same problem, coined the term 'communities' and from whom we picked up political correctness into the 'bargain'.

What about the role of the media in the above - the MCB became more powerful because of their profile. Their success and downfall has been and will be largely dependent on this. Again identity politics has created the need for a media go to. Another example of this is rights groups who use the exact same template.

Lastly - where religions are political yet there is no one leader or body of leaders to speak for a religious group. The government is treating all religions as the same. so are secularists. And yes it is absurd but then politicians and rights groups tend to talk FOR me but arent truly all representative. So where a religion is used as a political means to an end you have the same problem with representation.

Regards a co-opt for local leaders to help keep the peace in Afghanistan - i agree we use the same template to win hearts and minds and it has to be said quite successfully. Not so sure its working in NI.

But all religions ARE the same ...

They are all blackmail.

What do you think the MCB and those even further into islamic fascism are doing, except blackmailing us, and the "government"

the plural monoculturalism term makes sense to me. I agree that the 'maharajahs' have no 'place' but the aspect which you seem to leave out is the social legitimacy these 'maharajas' seem to have. Yes i agree there is a problem with Government/s playing into the hands of such 'community dynamics' but it would be simplistic to imagine that those dynamics aren't there. I'm not suggesting that you are saying they aren't there ---but that needs to be taken into account. Also there are problems with 'representation' in general - regardless of race or religion - i.e. problems with representation apply to 'non-brown' people.

Sonia, how much legitimacy do these community leaders have?

As you say, isn't the answer to improve representation for everyone, regardless of colour, rather than to seek the mediation of unelected representatives?

Plural monoculturalism could slide into a latter-day tribalism, which could potentially undermine democracy and the rule of law. It's a dangerous road.

I don't know if what you say is true but it sounds horribly convincing - order at all costs and by whatever means.

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